How I read that is that this brief disruption of time — which I believe is what Taunhaus did with his machine — sort of just broke the physical world, and the apocalypse is how that plays out. And she never got cancer because the nuclear power plant was never built. Schroedinger’s cat. Also Peter gives the journal to older Jonas, so now older Jonas has the same journal and gun as Adam!!! Then at some point he travels to that day and does it so he can exist. This is why you cannot change the future - because that event already happened, including your attempt to change it. You are only allowed to jump between the numbers in increments of 33. This is not correct in the world of Dark. But Claudia, the final Claudia, gave us a big clue in the finale as she explains to Adam what he did wrong, and how this universe he lives in really works. No matter how we look at it, we run into a contradiction. Or do several realities co-exist? Here is the Dark Season 3 ending, explained. She uses the loophole in your world to send her younger self off in one direction of another, in order to preserve the cycle. I’m sure we’ll all spend years scouring all the details to try to see the complete picture, but for now we’ll just have to accept that there are gaps we can’t really fill yet. DARK Series Ending Explained. The show is very consistent with these laws. The article of Ulrich in 1953 has always been in the archives, even before he traveled back. We could talk about that stuff all day but, again, it would be madness to delve too deep while we’re still absorbing what we just saw. But first things first, Super Dark Times first hit my radar when it made a list of interesting independent films coming out this year. Just a wall of spoilers here, basically.). Sunset is followed by sunrise, over and over. Great explanation. Medora talks early on about the "Dark" that comes at night, a suffocating absence of light that represents the unknown and seems to alter those around them. But this time it will be the last cycle.”. Showrunner, Henry Cavill Explain How the Timeline Works, 'Terminator: Dark Fate' - Let's Talk About What Happened With John Connor, 15 Time Travel TV Shows You Should Be Watching Right Now, From '12 Monkeys' to 'Dark' (Photos), a theory I have about the “Terminator” franchise. He wanted to “split time” and switch to the universe where they were still a live. We see numerous examples of this in season 3 — most notably, when the young Jonas is killed at the end of episode 5. Also Read: How to Tell Which Universe You're Watching During 'Dark' Season 3. Everything You Need to Know About ‘Dark’ Season 3, Explained. Every step had to be taken exactly as before. So that being put in place, let's see how the time travel mechanisms work in Dark: The caves in S1 basically allow people to travel between three timelines: 2019, the present, 1986, and 1953. You probably mixed the two up. If this were the case, the god particle of Adam in the 20s would have no significance, as Adam claims the particle can be used to travel to any point in time, surpassing the limitations of the cave/machine. Up until this moment.”, Claudia: “You trying to destroy the origin, that has happened an infinite number of times. It could stay within the loop, and continue expanding the scope of the mindbending madness until it gets to some kind of natural thematic stopping point, leaving things open-ended. Michael exaoljns to Jonas that 2020 Jonas does that, but he doesn’t remember at that point and it doesn’t show him do it...only shows it while Michael explains it. It’s not perfectly airtight — we cannot, with 100 percent certainly, piece together the entirety of this story. That's right, the car was always yours, as you received it from the future self when you were a kid. Yeah, it's just not possible. In the real, original world, Tannhaus tried to invent some kind of time machine that would allow him to save his son, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter — all of whom had died in a car accident. The final moments of “The Paradise” show Katharina, Hannah, Benni, and Peter celebrating Regina’s life. I really did not think that “Dark” would get an actually conclusive ending. I watched documentaries on time travel, where they state that there’s only two forms of time travel that can ever exist. It reads like a monkey’s paw situation to me. That’s why I’m kind of hoping that Adam is in fact a Jonas from another world. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.de628c13230c59091a5d.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} But your path had to remain unchanged. You can read that here. Press J to jump to the feed. The properties “dead” and “alive” therefore exist simultaneously in the microcosm. And I used it to send myself in another direction, too. The element of The Dark and the Wicked that needs the most explanation is the devil that has targeted the Straker family and their home. Claudia: “I’d have liked to spare you all of that. So when Adam meets the young Jonas for the first time, he is not actually meeting his past self. He’s responsible for so many of the bad things that happened. Dark never confirms who Regina’s father is, but it does give Claudia her last wish. What this implies is that the universe of Dark is deterministic at a macro level (no saving people, no altering the overall timeline) but nkn-deterministic at a micro level. 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In a deterministic universe, every single particle follows a predetermined path, with no random, stochastic component. Netflix's Dark is the kind of show that incites so much speculation, it's kind of like a snake eating its tail — or an unbreakable time-travel loop. Silja. So Jonas (Louis Hoffman) and Martha (Lisa Vicari) go to the site of the original fracture — in the tunnels beneath Helge’s bunker. Each iteration of Claudia learned more and more until we reached the ending that we saw in season 3. So not only is it "past" for you at your original time (84), it will also be "past" for you if you go back 33 years. But what if the simultaneous existence of life and death also applied to the macrocosmic world? Ines is deep in grief and is often seen in 2019 alone in her apartment. Spoilers for Dark Season 3 ahead! Dark season 3 ending explained: Who died at the end of Dark? I realized all this for a long time, and grew tired of how people tried to overthink the show and make out that it’s about completely different things. Time in Dark keeps passing regardless of which "location in time" you spend it in. In Dark, the past cannot be changed. The Grandfather Paradox is very simple at its core: if you go back in time to kill your grandfather, you will never be born to begin with, and therefore cannot go back in time to kill your grandfather. I do not have a good answer to why Jonas is transported 66 years forward, and until S3 drops, I will just accept that this is what happened for whatever reason. Dark is the first Netflix Original Series coming from Germany. So our Jonas doesn’t have to end up like him. Helge then retrieves their bodies via the cave system and deposits them where they are subsequently found. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The portal through which Helge and Jonas touch is created by middle aged Jonas overloading the machine inside the cave, and a huge time anomaly taking place. "._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Most movies and books about time travel are somehow concerned with changing the past in order to influence the "future" (the protagonist's original timeline, we can also call this the present). If we believe that everyone outside the bunker dies in the apocalypse, there would be absolutely no reason to bother shooting Martha, as both she and Jonas would die anyway. but we do know that Eva was using him as a sort of enforcer to maintain the loop by any means. One thing is, however, worth considering: What if "free will" is only an illusion? Some numbers are marked red, this is where important events in the timeline happens. Determinism and free will are important concepts in the series, and the writers have actually said in an interview that they believe a deterministic universe is more interesting to play with from a storytelling perspective. Hi! But it’s not you. And they do show us the scene where this jonas takes mikkel by the hand to lead him to the cave that night . This sounds complicated, so let us boil it down. How is this possible if one can only travel 33 years at a time? I’ve read other theories that state that the pregnant Martha that Adam put inside the time blob really did die, and her baby died with her, and that this mysterious man was actually born of an alternate Martha who wasn’t put in the time blob. I explained it like this to my GF and it cleared a lot of things up. You create yourself forever anew. The reason for this is because “Dark” is full of bootstrap paradoxes. Could we manage to split time and allow it to run in two opposing directions? It’s a tough concept to articulate, and that’s why “Dark” is so vague about it. This is a basic premise, and will be important throughout the discussion. So he must survive. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/. If the year he goes back to take Claudia was 1986, how did they reach 2020 in the last episode? Interestingly, Adam knows full well (at least that is my understanding) that alternative Martha will save Jonas. As far as I understand, the experimentation with the children is necessary for the eventual creation of the Tannhaus machine, and even later, the god particle Adam uses. That’s the term that describes, to cite one example from the show, how Charlotte could be her own grandmother. But in terms of the big picture, those comments from Claudia have even bigger ramifications for the world of “Dark.” It’s a pretty significant recontextualization of the first two seasons. It’s probably no coincidence that “Dark” had us listen to Bartosz deliver a spiel about black holes in the season premiere. To continue reading for free, provide your email below. And that threw everything out of balance. The showrunners are determinists and shun the likes of Back to the Future, so I just can’t imagine anything being changed in the world we followed up to this point, now. Before we really get into it, I wanna point everyone to a site Netflix set up to help you keep track of all the characters and their relationships with each other. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Marek goes back to H.G. The two accidentally interact with the younger versions of each other while they’re in there. I just finished re-watching season 1 last night and it’s great to pick up on the little things throughout that make more sense now we know who everyone is and what they’re up to! 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